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OK, here it is. I suggest we list them under separate headings. — [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] [[User talk:Robin Patterson|(Talk)]] 03:38, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
OK, here it is. I suggest we list them under separate headings. — [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] [[User talk:Robin Patterson|(Talk)]] 03:38, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
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=={{t|Documentation}}==
=={{[[Template:Documentation|Documentation]]}}==
 
 
See intro above. That would be a major alteration! Should be discussed with the author(s) of the original if possible. On the side issue of [[Template:Documentation subpage]], one of our template experts at Familypedia has now altered {{t|Documentation}} [http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Documentation there], which could be worth a look. — [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] [[User talk:Robin Patterson|(Talk)]] 03:38, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
See intro above. That would be a major alteration! Should be discussed with the author(s) of the original if possible. On the side issue of [[Template:Documentation subpage]], one of our template experts at Familypedia has now altered {{t|Documentation}} [http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Documentation there], which could be worth a look. — [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] [[User talk:Robin Patterson|(Talk)]] 03:38, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
   
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::::The redesign has been at the forefront of my mind since I read the announcement; I've already applied for the beta and been accepted, and am now waiting for my invitation so I can start to get a feel for how the new skin(s) will affect the template landscape. As for those with little to no understanding of the technical aspects of the MediaWiki software, this is going to sound incredibly harsh and probably more than a little closed-minded, but they should NOT be messing around with templates unless they are either prepared to clean up their mess/deal with lots of breakage, or they have a more experienced template coder on call that they can ask for help. The template namespace is not the place to start out learning template coding and wikimarkup; there's a reason every wiki has a [[Project:Sandbox|sandbox page]] from its creation. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 04:24, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::The redesign has been at the forefront of my mind since I read the announcement; I've already applied for the beta and been accepted, and am now waiting for my invitation so I can start to get a feel for how the new skin(s) will affect the template landscape. As for those with little to no understanding of the technical aspects of the MediaWiki software, this is going to sound incredibly harsh and probably more than a little closed-minded, but they should NOT be messing around with templates unless they are either prepared to clean up their mess/deal with lots of breakage, or they have a more experienced template coder on call that they can ask for help. The template namespace is not the place to start out learning template coding and wikimarkup; there's a reason every wiki has a [[Project:Sandbox|sandbox page]] from its creation. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 04:24, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
   
=={{[[Template:T|T]]}}==
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=={{T|T}}==
 
I recall seeing that one of you clever guys had made a version that doesn't need T/piece. Again, it should be run past the original authors. — [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] [[User talk:Robin Patterson|(Talk)]] 03:38, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
I recall seeing that one of you clever guys had made a version that doesn't need T/piece. Again, it should be run past the original authors. — [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] [[User talk:Robin Patterson|(Talk)]] 03:38, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
   
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::::Technically, the entire template is susceptible to typos. It would be easy enough to add a check for "subst" and all caps variants (since the parser ignores case here), but there are other such tags which can be used ("msg", "safesubst" (which currently can't be used on Wikia, but will probably be here sometime in the next few months), and maybe several others), and the parameter (well, the whole template, really) could also be abused for demonstrating interwiki transclusion: {{t|Documentation|prefix=w:}} <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 04:29, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::Technically, the entire template is susceptible to typos. It would be easy enough to add a check for "subst" and all caps variants (since the parser ignores case here), but there are other such tags which can be used ("msg", "safesubst" (which currently can't be used on Wikia, but will probably be here sometime in the next few months), and maybe several others), and the parameter (well, the whole template, really) could also be abused for demonstrating interwiki transclusion: {{t|Documentation|prefix=w:}} <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 04:29, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
   
=={{[[Template:From Wikimedia|From Wikimedia]]}}==
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=={{t|From Wikimedia}}==
 
This update actually makes it useful for actually denoting sources, as starter wiki it fails to trull denote the free licence let alone the attribution requirements of the free license. --{{User:Roguebfl/sig2}} 05:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
This update actually makes it useful for actually denoting sources, as starter wiki it fails to trull denote the free licence let alone the attribution requirements of the free license. --{{User:Roguebfl/sig2}} 05:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
   
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::::::Since we're just assuming the project, I made the rest of the template text consistent with the link text. An override parameter should be possible (and may not even be that complicated), but I don't feel like working on it right now. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 04:35, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::::Since we're just assuming the project, I made the rest of the template text consistent with the link text. An override parameter should be possible (and may not even be that complicated), but I don't feel like working on it right now. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 04:35, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
   
=={{[[Template:Information|Information]]}}==
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=={{t|Information}}==
 
For much the same why Wikimedia uses as similar template, it helps organize File info, gives strong hints on the info Free licenses require, and will make porting images from Wikimedia Commons simpler. --{{User:Roguebfl/sig2}} 05:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
For much the same why Wikimedia uses as similar template, it helps organize File info, gives strong hints on the info Free licenses require, and will make porting images from Wikimedia Commons simpler. --{{User:Roguebfl/sig2}} 05:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
   
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:::This is off topic for this post. The post is called "Starter Wikia - adding templates to it or changing them". It says nothing about image attribution. Please make a new topic about this issue. --&nbsp;[[User:Fandyllic|<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;" title="Former WoWWiki Admin">Fandyllic</span>]]<small> ([[User talk:Fandyllic|talk]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/Fandyllic|contr]])</small> 10:12 PM PST 27 Aug 2010
 
:::This is off topic for this post. The post is called "Starter Wikia - adding templates to it or changing them". It says nothing about image attribution. Please make a new topic about this issue. --&nbsp;[[User:Fandyllic|<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;" title="Former WoWWiki Admin">Fandyllic</span>]]<small> ([[User talk:Fandyllic|talk]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/Fandyllic|contr]])</small> 10:12 PM PST 27 Aug 2010
   
=={{[[Template:Wikitemplates|Wikitemplates]]}}==
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=={{t|Wikitemplates}}==
 
For all the same reason you have {{t|Wikipedia}} and as hint for people to come here for the templates rather than Wikipedia. --{{User:Roguebfl/sig2}} 05:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
For all the same reason you have {{t|Wikipedia}} and as hint for people to come here for the templates rather than Wikipedia. --{{User:Roguebfl/sig2}} 05:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
   
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::::Personally, I'm more worried about keeping the text simple than the code; even with that, while a certain amount of complexity will be necessary (you can only simplify this type of conditional output so much without starting to break out sections into subtemplates), I will try to keep it all as simple as I can (overly complex code is not fun trying to read/edit, and is a bug magnet). <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 02:11, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::Personally, I'm more worried about keeping the text simple than the code; even with that, while a certain amount of complexity will be necessary (you can only simplify this type of conditional output so much without starting to break out sections into subtemplates), I will try to keep it all as simple as I can (overly complex code is not fun trying to read/edit, and is a bug magnet). <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 02:11, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
   
=={{[[Template:Infobox|Infobox]]}}==
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=={{t|Infobox}}==
 
So the Infobox's color scheme will match the user's theme --{{User:Roguebfl/sig2}} 05:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
So the Infobox's color scheme will match the user's theme --{{User:Roguebfl/sig2}} 05:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
   
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